Track T by default: the FAILING STEP named no owner. Line 2 of 2 is
tools/expect_same.sh test_setlen_parfor26 "$(/tmp/test_setlen_parfor26)" "PARALLEL SETLEN OK total=8000". The job's ownsrc(test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pas, 2 file(s)) is NOT used here on purpose: it is what the job compiles, not what broke, and guessing a lane from it is what sent three reds in one job to the wrong lane. This is a FALLBACK, not a finding — nothing says the defect is Track T's. Re-lane it before working it.
origin/master has advanced 2 commit(s) since this sha. Re-verify at current HEAD before acting — the callback is tagged to the sha that was tested, which may no longer be the state of the tree.
regression: test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pas at 456361785e34 in step 2/2, tools/expect_same.sh test_setlen_parfor26 "$(/tmp/test_s (auto-filed by twatch)
- Type: regression (auto-filed by Track T watcher, host seven, twatch
802e5ed96a48). Untriaged. - Found: 2026-08-31T06:26:52Z
- Test source: test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pas tools/expect_same.sh
- Failing step: line 2 of 2 of the job's recipe; it names
tools/expect_same.sh.tools/expect_same.sh test_setlen_parfor26 "$(/tmp/test_setlen_parfor26)" "PARALLEL SETLEN OK total=8000"
Repro
tools/testmgr.py --tier native --job 'test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pas' at 456361785e3489b2a7ddd800bc216b5ec2bbe51f
Range
The named sha
456361785e34CANNOT be the cause — it touches no buildable file (docs / tickets / tstate only). It is the sha that was TESTED, i.e. the upper bound of an untested range; the cause is somewhere below it.
bad 456361785e34, last good d28b77ce5d88, 1 commit(s) in range — the watcher narrows this by idle bisect; check tstate/TSTATE.md for the current range.
Log tail
ok: /tmp/testmgr-scratch-2782012/test_setlen_parfor26 [code=126744B data=5728B bss=42612B procs=277]
expect_same: MISMATCH [test_setlen_parfor26]
--- expected
+++ actual
@@ -1 +1 @@
-PARALLEL SETLEN OK total=8000
+PARALLEL SETLEN OK total=7944
Stub ticket: signal only. Track T agent (face 2) enriches or a dev track takes it from the repro line.
Log
- 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at d7aad6cd14a3 (tier full) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at 373deddb700b (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at d74c7fbe9ffe (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at afb7aa9da9c9 (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at 2812ffacbe69 (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at b8f7e6f2bb11 (tier full) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at 86126be99600 (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at 243ff4a2942d (tier full) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call. - 2026-08-31 — the seven watcher saw
test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pasGREEN at 2bdb3c4ef3f6 (tier native) and did NOT close this: this is a repeat stub (regression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body-2, notregression-test-core-test-setlen-in-parallel-for-body) — the job already went red, was closed, and came back, so one green is the outcome a live intermittent bug produces most of the time. The green is recorded because it is evidence and because a ticket that stops moving with no reason reads as forgotten; closing this one is a human's call.
Does NOT reproduce on plexus, on EITHER compiler — 2026-09-02, frankZ
Run under the umbrella [[umbrella-one-full-tier-run-with-no-red-tier]], with the recipe's own flags:
| binary | commit | runs | failures |
|---|---|---|---|
480d4584403c (HEAD) |
ad55e4dcc |
40 | 0 |
stable_linux_amd64/default/pinned (v399) |
2026-08-19 | 30 | 0 |
Two independently built compilers, byte-different programs, 70 runs, no
failure. The tested sha 456361785e34 is also an upper bound rather than a cause —
the ticket's own banner says it touches no buildable file.
This is half a finding and the residual belongs to Track T. "Not
reproducible on plexus" does not answer "then why is it red on seven", and I
cannot answer that from here: seven runs this job under full-matrix
parallelism and I ran it solo. For a threading-adjacent program that is not
a detail, it is the most likely difference — the same shape as
test_multithreading, which needed no load to fail but whose rate moved with
it.
What would settle it, and what I am NOT claiming to have done: the same job on seven, under load, at this sha. Left open and wired to the umbrella rather than resolved, because a red nobody can reproduce is still a red in the tier that decides whether a pin is green.
MEASURED: this is a FLAKE, and the tstate archive says so outright (frankZ, 2026-09-02)
The earlier entry on this ticket said the failure does not reproduce here on either compiler and named seven's full-matrix parallelism as the likeliest difference. That was half a finding. Here is the other half, and it does not depend on reproducing anything.
Track T's own markers alternate. Counting every tstate commit subject that
names test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body:
NEW-RED-bearing commits : 10
FIXED-bearing commits : 10
total markers : 20
all 20 markers land on 2026-08-31 alone
A regression cannot be fixed and re-broken 10 times in one day. That would need 10 fixes and 10 breakages, on one host, across shas that mostly touch docs and tickets. The only reading left is that the job's verdict is nondeterministic, and the NEW-RED / FIXED pairs are the watcher faithfully reporting a coin landing differently.
This is a second source that FAILS DIFFERENTLY from the local non-reproduction: 0-in-40 here is consistent with "rare flake" AND with "host-specific bug", and cannot separate them. The alternating markers separate them — a host-specific bug is stable on its host, and this is not stable on its host.
What changes because of it
- It is not a regression, so there is no cause in any commit range, and the auto-filed range is not merely unnarrowed, it is meaningless. Nobody should bisect this.
- The right work is to stabilise or quarantine the test, not to find a breaking commit — and if the nondeterminism is a real race in the program under test rather than in the harness, that race is the ticket, at a much higher value than this one.
- The residual owner does not change: Track T, named above, now with a measurement instead of a hypothesis.
Why it matters to the umbrella specifically
[[umbrella-one-full-tier-run-with-no-red-tier]] wants ONE full run with no RED in any tier. A test that flips on its own makes that a lottery rather than a consequence of fixing things: every arrival can be beaten by the fix rate and the run still comes back red. Recorded there too.
- 2026-09-02 — CLOSED by claude-T on Track T dispatch. Re-verified at HEAD before diagnosing, per this stub's own banner:
tools/testmgr.py --tier native --job 'test-core#src:test/test_setlen_in_parallel_for_body.pas'at3e05d2946455is GREEN. The regression is gone from the tree and the job is no longer in seven'sopen_regressions. No code change was needed for this ticket; what it cost was the re-verification.