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A Pointer type alias rejects a class instance that plain Pointer accepts

Track B's gate is RED on the currently blessed pin. make lib-test fails at lib_synapse_ssl under v394 e2ea9034a65ea8b6 (cc5e02d6c) and passes under v393 1d69760deabe2865. Found by frankB, 2026-08-30, while running Track B's gate for unrelated work.

pascal26:456: error: no overload of SslCtxSetDefaultPasswdCbUserdata matches these arguments
  argument types: (Pointer, class)
  candidates:
    SslCtxSetDefaultPasswdCbUserdata(Pointer, Pointer)
  in: external/synapse/ssl_openssl3.pas

The call is SslCtxSetDefaultPasswdCbUserdata(FCtx, self); the declaration is procedure …(ctx: PSSL_CTX; u: SslPtr) in ssl_openssl3_lib.pas:266, where SslPtr is an alias for Pointer.

Measured, not reasoned — the isolating table

Same source, two pinned binaries, one factor varied per row. The first hypothesis ("a class instance no longer converts to Pointer") was wrong and is recorded as wrong: a plain Pointer parameter still accepts self on both pins.

case v393 v394
cross-unit, literal Pointer param, plain class ok ok
cross-unit, alias SslPtr = Pointer param, plain class ok FAIL
cross-unit, alias param, derived class ok FAIL
cross-unit, literal Pointer param, derived class ok ok
same-unit, alias param, plain class FAIL FAIL

The alias is the trigger. Class derivation is irrelevant — it was in the first repro only because Synapse's class is derived, and dropping it changes nothing.

The finding that reframes it, and it is the reason this is filed as a bug

The same-unit case fails on BOTH pins. So v394 did not introduce a defect; it made the cross-unit path agree with a same-unit path that was already broken. The likely mechanism — stated as a hypothesis, not measured, because this is a frontend internal and nobody should record a root cause they did not diff — is that cross-unit alias resolution previously lost the alias and saw plain Pointer, and now preserves it, hitting the same rejection the same-unit path always had.

If that is right, the real defect is the older one: a Pointer alias should accept exactly what Pointer accepts, since it is Pointer. Fixing only the cross-unit regression would restore Synapse and leave the same-unit arm broken — the classic double-case where the second arm is the one that stays broken (devdocs/dev/normalise-dont-special-case.md). Fix the alias's assignability, not the unit boundary.

Minimal repro (same-unit form — fails on both pins, so no binary hunting needed)

program m;
type
  SslPtr = Pointer;
  TD = class
    procedure Go;
  end;
procedure Takes(ctx: Pointer; u: SslPtr);
begin
  if (ctx = nil) and (u = nil) then writeln('n');
end;
procedure TD.Go;
begin
  Takes(nil, self);          { error: no overload of Takes matches these arguments }
end;
var d: TD;
begin
  d := TD.Create; d.Go; writeln('ok');
end.

Split SslPtr and Takes into a separate unit to get the v393/v394 differential.

Track, and why it might be A

Filed P (Pascal overload resolution / assignability is dialect semantics). If the fix lands in defs.inc / symtab.inc type identity it is a Track A change and should be re-filed or self-resolved per the combined-track rule. Whoever picks it up should decide that on the first read rather than assuming this frontmatter got it right.

Impact and what is NOT known

The diagnostic is its own tell — the renderer resolves the alias, the checker does not

Spotted by frank-coordinator on an independently-written repro; confirmed here against the captured output rather than taken on report. The declaration is

procedure Takes(ctx: Pointer; u: SslPtr);

and the rejection prints

argument types: (Pointer, class)
candidates:
  Takes(Pointer, Pointer)

SslPtr has become Pointer in the candidate line. So whatever renders candidates already normalises the alias to its underlying type, while the assignability check that rejected the call did not reach the same answer. Two layers disagreeing about the same type, one of them correctly.

That is a much narrower place to look than "alias resolution": the resolved form demonstrably exists and is reachable at diagnostic time. The question is why the check is deciding on the unresolved one.

Binding constraint for whoever fixes it — both arms, or it is not fixed. The same-unit case fails on both pins (table above). A fix that restores only the cross-unit path makes Synapse compile and leaves the older arm broken, which is exactly the sibling that stays broken in devdocs/dev/normalise-dont-special-case.md. Grep for the sibling before closing: the acceptance is that BOTH the same-unit and cross-unit alias forms accept a class instance, verified by value, not that lib_synapse_ssl goes green.

Status: pin reverted, this is no longer blocking

v394 was reverted to v393 as b8fd07377, so Track B's gate is green again and nothing is blocked on this. It stays urgent because the defect is real, older than v394, and will re-break the gate the moment a pin carries the change again — the revert bought time, it did not fix anything.

Collateral, recorded so it is not discovered later: [[feature-lib-tkinter-grid-pad-accepts-a-two-tuple]] was closed against v394 and has been reopened, verified failing again on the reverted pin. It closes on the next pin that carries 51b0753e7.


Resolved 2026-08-30 (frankA) — one cause, three symptoms, two eras

Root cause: RegisterGeneralAlias (compiler/symtab.inc) recorded AliasElemTk := tk — conflating "what kind is T?" with "what does T point AT?". Invisible for non-pointer aliases, where nothing reads the element. For pointer aliases every general alias recorded a tyPointer element regardless of target:

alias recorded elem correct
= Pointer 17 0 (untyped sentinel)
= PChar 17 3
= PRec 17 5
^Pointer 17 17 — right, by coincidence

Fix: ParseTypeKind has just run for the right-hand side — the same reason LastTypeStrCap is readable four lines below — so the target's own pointer facts are live in the LastTypePointer* globals. Record those. Non-pointer aliases keep prior behaviour exactly; the subrange call site can never reach the new branch (it passes only tyChar/tyInteger). Landed 9b01b1b9b.

The ticket's framing was right to distrust itself, and the correction matters

The ticket says v394 "made the cross-unit path agree with an already-broken same-unit path", and a two-cause reading was circulated on top of it. Both are wrong, and the premise was checkable: the MatchParamCompatible narrowing (8b75fcabd, 08-28 00:46) is an ancestor of the v393 pin (d3f9dee6c), and the pinned v393 binary reproduces the same-unit repro with the identical error. There was never a second cause.

What actually differed between the pins is DETERMINISM, and this is the finding worth carrying off this ticket. Measured on v393, the overload symptom is position-dependent:

shape v393 v394 fixed
same-unit, alias formal at param index 0 ok ok ok
same-unit, alias formal at index 1 or 2 FAIL FAIL ok
cross-unit (Synapse's shape) ok FAIL ok

That is the fingerprint of the recycled-symbol read fixed by bug-p-a-parameters-pointer-element-type-is-lost-between-registration-and-overload-matching: the matcher read a slot SymRollbackTo had handed back, which on some paths happened to hold tyUnknown — the untyped-pointer sentinel — and so failed open. That fix did not introduce this defect; it made a garbage channel deterministic, turning a shape-dependent wrong answer into a consistent one. Synapse went from accidentally passing to reliably failing. A bisect lands on that commit every time, correctly, and is wrong about what it means.

The third symptom, which had no ticket and is the serious one

The two loud symptoms pulled the whole investigation into a compile-time story about overload resolution. The same wrong element also produced wrong runtime values:

Found only by varying the spelling of the alias rather than re-running the reported shape.

Verification

Regression test

test/test_pointer_alias_identity.pas + test/units/uptralias.pas, wired into test-core. Two of its arms are controls that could genuinely have failed:

What is still NOT bounded

The ticket's own warning stands: lib-test aborted at lib_synapse_ssl on v394, so every job after that line is still unrun and the blast radius was never measured. lib_synapse_ssl passing is necessary, not sufficient — a full lib-test on a build carrying this fix (Track B's gate, frankB) is what closes that, and it is a prerequisite for the pin, not for this ticket.

Log

2026-08-30 — sha correction: ce3560ecd never existed on origin

Corrected by the coordinator. The write-up cited ce3560ecd; git merge-base answers "not a valid object name" for it. The commit landed as 9b01b1b9b"fix(P/A): a pointer type alias is the type it aliases", 05:53 — and every occurrence above has been updated.

This is bug-t-resolve-cites-a-sha-the-rebase-then-rewrites biting the write-up rather than a resolve line. ce3560ecd was real in the author's local reflog before the rebase, which is why git show --stat ce3560ecd worked there and fails everywhere else. Caught by frankB, whose own citation had moved the same way in the same window (6534f6f19e26901160).

The rule the tooling already encodes: pass no sha to resolve — it writes PENDING-COMMIT and tools/sync.sh fills in the sha the commit landed as. A sha named before the push is the pre-rebase one, and this repo rebases nearly every sync because the watcher publishes tstate continuously. That protection covers the Log: line; prose in the body is outside it, which is where this one got through.

What the reporter's factor table could and could not see (frankB, after the fix)

Folded in rather than replacing the original table with the answer, because the two instruments found different things and the difference is the reusable part.

The table found the trigger in minutes and got the mechanism wrong. It said cross-unit alias vs same-unit alias, and I hypothesised that cross-unit resolution used to lose the alias and now preserves it. The measured mechanism is AliasElemTk := tk conflating "what kind is T" with "what does T point at", and the v393 behaviour was position-dependent — an alias formal at parameter index 0 accepted, at index 1 or 2 rejected — which is the signature of a recycled-symbol read, not a rule about unit boundaries.

My table could not have seen that, and the reason is structural: every row I varied held the parameter position fixed at index 1. The alias formal was the second parameter in all five rows, because that is where it sits in Synapse's SslCtxSetDefaultPasswdCbUserdata(ctx, u) and I built the repro by shrinking the real call rather than by enumerating a space.

That is not a flaw in the method. A factor table is blind along exactly the axes it holds fixed, and holding most axes fixed is what makes it fast — it isolated the trigger from a 90-second suite failure without touching the frontend. The lesson is not "vary more axes", which is unbounded; it is that a factor table locates a trigger and a second instrument is needed for a mechanism, and a hypothesis built only from the table should be labelled as one. It was, and the label is why frankA went looking rather than implementing my version.

The inherited-repro hazard, stated for the next person. Shrinking a real failure preserves whatever the real call happened to fix — here, the argument position. It is the cheapest way to a repro and it silently inherits the original's coincidences. The counter is not to stop doing it; it is to notice which properties came from the source rather than from the investigation, and to say so when handing the repro on.

One thing this closes that the fix's own acceptance did not. The five-row table was re-run on a build carrying 9b01b1b9b from a tree with external/synapse genuinely present, and all five pass including the same-unit arm that failed on both v393 and v394 — the "both arms or it is not fixed" constraint, checked independently of the fixing lane's own acceptance. Build provenance: worktree at HEAD 5dd4d33b2, seeded from the pin and dated 2000-01-01 so the build could not silently no-op, converged after 2 round(s), built sha fb2ce9b87b09 ≠ seed 1d69760deabe.