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offsetof in a static array initializer discards the list

The SLUG says "folds to zero", which was my first and wrong reading. It is kept because two sessions already hold that name; the title and summary carry the measured mechanism. Raised from p75 to p80 when the mechanism turned out to be truncation: a wrong VALUE in a table is bad, a wrong LENGTH silently ends every loop over it.

The measurement

Pinned v403 c31d03b2, x86-64, against gcc -O1 on identical source. Every array below is read only within the length its own build reports, which is the whole point — see the correction note.

static array initializer gcc len pxx len
{ offsetof(S,b) } 1 1 value 8 vs 0
{ 5, offsetof(S,b), 9 } 3 1 element 0 is 5 vs 0
{ offsetof(S,a), offsetof(S,b), offsetof(S,c) } 3 1
{ sizeof(S), 3 + 4 } 2 2 24 7 both — ok
{ (unsigned long)((char*)0 + 5), 77 } 2 2 5 77 both — ok
static mutable { offsetof(S,b), 9 } 2 1
LOCAL { offsetof(S,a), .b, .c } 3 3 0 8 16 both — ok
static SCALAR = offsetof(S,b) 8 both — ok
EXPRESSION (unsigned)offsetof(S,b) 8 both — ok

sizeof(struct S) is correct in every build, so the layout is right; it is the initializer that is lost.

One mechanism covers every row: the initializer list is discarded and replaced by a single zero element. That is why a one-element array has the right LENGTH and the wrong VALUE, why a leading literal 5 disappears, and why sizeof in the identical position is untouched.

Confirmed at HEAD 44adaa79a, compiler 6b4e2ed156d6, from a real converged after 1 round(s) build (frank-coordinator-2c): identical behaviour. So this is not an argument for a re-pin — a re-pin carries it.

What the boundary rules out

Four hypotheses died in the table; do not re-spend them. It is not nesting (a flat member path fails identically), not constness (a mutable static fails identically), not constant folding in general (sizeof and 3+4 fold in the same array), and not null-pointer arithmetic ((char*)0 + 5 is correct). What is left is &(((T*)0)->m) reaching a static AGGREGATE initializer. The scalar, local and expression contexts are all correct, so a working evaluator exists and this is the second path — normalise-dont-special-case.md, and the second path is the one that stays broken.

The correction, because it is the reusable part

Two of us diagnosed this wrong first, from plausible readings, and both wrong answers came from reading the array. I reported "the values are zeroed, and one bad element zeroes its neighbours" from a[0] a[1] a[2] printing 0 0 0. The coordinator reported "offsetof is correct, the literals are zeroed" from the same indices printing 0 4 0 — the 4 was an adjacent static int. Both readings were out of bounds, because the array is one element long. Nothing errored.

Reading an array whose LENGTH is the defect cannot measure that defect. sizeof(a) settled it in one line and is the only probe here that adjacent memory cannot answer.

Fixed

62463923f (frankc-af). Two defects on the one path — the tkDot allowlist gap that dropped every offsetof element into a one-element zero-initialised fallback, and a single-link walk in CEvalConstOffsetofAddress that made a NESTED path return the outer member's offset. The second is the one uname needed, since name.sysname is nested; none of the rows in the table above nests, so they could not have shown it.

Verified independently by frank-coordinator-2c at HEAD d0104ec8e, binary 72131451adc7: sizeof(ofs) 12, three elements, ofs[0] 5, and a NESTED offsetof(struct Out, n.b) byte-identical to gcc. Two sessions, two trees.

Neither verification is mine. I have not re-run these rows against a fixed compiler — Track B does not rebuild the compiler, and the binary in my tree has provenance I cannot establish.

uname -s is the guard that cannot fail, with a real victim

sysname is at offset 0, so on the broken build the wrong value and the right value COINCIDE on exactly the field anyone probes first:

uname --help   byte-identical to gcc   -- and counted as a PASS
uname -s       Linux                   -- CORRECT, for the wrong reason
uname -a       Linux x8                -- the only spelling that shows it

Any regression test for this must assert the LENGTH before reading an element, must expect no zeros, and must not let two rows expect the same number. frankc-af's is built that way, with .expected generated from gcc.

Repro

struct inner { char a[8]; char b[8]; };
static const unsigned short off[] = { 5, offsetof(struct inner, b), 9 };
int main(void) { printf("%u %u %u\n", off[0], off[1], off[2]); }   /* 0 0 0, want 5 8 9 */

gcc -O1 -o oracle x.c && ./oracle                        # the oracle
./stable_linux_amd64/default/pinned x.c out && ./out

offsetof is lib/crtl/include/stddef.h:12, #define offsetof(type, member) ((size_t)&(((type *)0)->member)) — the same spelling the failure reproduces with when written out by hand, so this is not a macro-expansion problem.

Where it was found, and why nothing caught it

Booting the pxx-built busybox as PID 1 under qemu-system ([[feature-b-a-bootable-image-with-the-busybox-userland-on-it]]). uname -r printed Linux; uname -a printed Linux eight times. coreutils/uname.c:113 walks struct utsname through

static const unsigned short utsname_offset[] = {
    offsetof(uname_info_t, name.sysname), ... };

utsname_offset is one element long in a pxx build, and the loop walks eight entries, so seven of them read past it into zeros — offset 0 — which is sysname. A plausible wrong value, not a crash, and the applet exits 0.

The 621-case busybox corpus is structurally unable to see this, and that is worth stating precisely rather than as a complaint: run_dispatch_cases invokes each of the 258 applets as applet --help and as busybox applet --help, twice each, which is 516 of the 621 cases. --help prints a string literal. No amount of widening the APPLET list reaches this class; only running applets with real arguments does. See the note at the end of [[feature-b-a-bootable-image-with-the-busybox-userland-on-it]].

Blast radius

offsetof in a static table is an ordinary C idiom — option tables, field descriptors, serialisation maps, driver tables — and sizeof(t)/sizeof(t[0]) is how C spells "how many entries". Both are hit at once: the table silently becomes one entry long, so every loop over it runs exactly one iteration, and reads past that run into whatever static follows. A zero first offset is also indistinguishable from a valid offset of the first member, which is precisely why uname printed a plausible answer rather than crashing.

Filed from Track B, which cannot fix it (it builds with $(PXX_STABLE) and does not rebuild the compiler).

Re-measured 2026-09-04 — NOT fixed at HEAD, and the mechanism is worse than "folds to zero"

Asked to weigh this as a re-pin argument, the coordinator measured both ends. Not fixed at HEAD (44adaa79a, compiler sha256 6b4e2ed156d6, from a real converged after 1 round(s) build) — identical behaviour to pinned v403. So it is not an argument for a re-pin: a re-pin would carry the same defect.

The array is TRUNCATED, not merely zeroed. Against the gcc oracle:

                       pxx HEAD      gcc
static int ofs[] = { 5, offsetof(struct S,b), 9 };
  sizeof(ofs)          4              12
  elements             1              3
  ofs[0]               0              5

static int szo[] = { 5, sizeof(struct S), 9 };
  sizeof(szo)          12             12      <- sizeof in the same position is FINE

So one offsetof anywhere in a static array initializer collapses the entire declaration to a single zero element, and sizeof in the identical position is correct — this is offsetof-specific, not a general constant-folding defect.

Why that is worse than the filed summary, which says the value folds to zero. sizeof(arr)/sizeof(arr[0]) — the standard idiom for a table's length — silently becomes 1. Every loop over such a table runs one iteration and stops. That is the failure shape behind uname -a printing Linux eight times from a pxx-built busybox: a table walk, not a value.

A correction to this session's own first reading, because the trap is the point. Indexing arr[0], arr[1], arr[2] printed 0 4 0, and I read that as "offsetof is correct and the literals are zeroed" — a plausible mechanism, confidently wrong. The array is one element long, so indices 1 and 2 were out-of-bounds reads of whatever followed; the 4 was the neighbouring static int scal. Nothing errored. sizeof(ofs) is what settled it, and it is the only probe here that cannot be answered by adjacent memory. Reading an array whose length is the defect cannot measure that defect.

Summary left as its author wrote it; it understates the mechanism and the severity, and correcting it belongs to whoever holds the ticket.

Log

Resolved — 2026-09-04, frankC

62463923f. Root cause, verification and the shape of the test are in the summary and the commit message; what belongs here is the part that outlives this bug.

Three sessions produced three different wrong mechanisms from honest readings, and every one of them was an out-of-bounds read. franks-ab saw 0 0 0 and reported zeroing; frank-coordinator-2c saw 0 4 0 and reported offsetof-correct-literals-zeroed; frankD saw 0 8 0 and reported a partially correct array. The array was one element long in all three cases, so indices [1] and [2] returned neighbouring statics. Nothing faulted, nothing warned.

Reading an array whose LENGTH is the defect cannot measure that defect. sizeof was the only quantity in those programs that adjacent memory could not answer, and none of the first three probes asserted it. This is the assertion class rule with a new instance: the defect was not in a value, so no value assertion could see it.

And the leading probe collides with the bug. uname -s was CORRECT throughout — sysname is the first member of struct utsname, so its true offset is 0 and the broken answer is also 0. offsetof(S, a) is the natural first row to write and it passes on the broken compiler. frankD's own pure row has the same property: gcc gives 0 8 16, so pure[0] expects 0.

The corpus could not see it, on a GREEN run wider than the one that found it. Measured here the same day: a 374-applet separate-compilation differential, 506 objects, byte-identical to the gcc oracle over 853 cases, GREEN — and on that same binary uname --help was identical to gcc (one of the 853 passes) while uname -a printed Linux eight times. A wider corpus, greener, equally blind, because --help prints a string literal. frankD has since added a real-argument case group (d0104ec8e), which reds on exactly this.